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[#96159] Written by: spevman [18/06/2008, 00:32]
oh happy day! i've been waiting for this. something to watch in the morning
with my daily dose of coffee!!
[#96160] Written by: edward62 [18/06/2008, 00:34]
been waiting for this. loved the brit version. though ashes to ashes was not
nearly as good...
[#96161] Written by: KrystalBall [18/06/2008, 00:38]
ah, 70's clothing, the only thing that could make jason o'mara not hot, lol.
[#96163] Written by: Mojambo [18/06/2008, 00:49]
probably wait on this.

still working my way through the brit version.
[#96171] Written by: barbell [18/06/2008, 01:21]
here's a review:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jun/15/bbc.usa

"us version of life on mars gets lost in translation"

as gene hunt might put it: 'if i was as worried as you, i wouldn't fart for fear
of messing myself.' unfortunately, the worrying is now being done by tv
executives whose american remake of the time-travelling drama life on mars is
stuck on the starting blocks.

the hit bbc series starred john simm as sam tyler, a detective who finds himself
transported back to the fashions, pop culture and politically incorrect policing
of hunt and company in seventies manchester. america's abc network had been
confident that its own version, based on male chauvinist cops in los angeles in
1972, would be a guaranteed ratings winner this autumn.

but a pilot episode, shot on the streets of la in lavish period detail, now
seems unlikely to make it to the screen. executives have decided in effect to
tear up the show and start again, moving it 3,000 miles east to new york. its
writer-producer has quit and it is believed several cast members will be
replaced. 'the series has already suffered an exceptionally bumpy ride into the
future, even by the alice in wonderland standards of television programme
development,' the los angeles times noted.

life on mars would not be the first uk show to get lost in translation,
following in the wake of flops such as the us incarnations of cracker and
coupling. but after recent successes such as the office, which achieved the leap
from slough to scranton, pennsylvania, british shows are now more fashionable
than ever, with the thriller eleventh hour and the comedy gavin and stacey among
those bought by american networks.

the stars of the life on mars pilot are not american, but irish. tyler is played
by dublin-born jason o'mara, a former royal shakespeare company actor who
appeared in tv series including monarch of the glen before breaking into
american tv. the role of hard-drinking maverick hunt, memorably played by philip
glenister in the original and reprised in ashes to ashes, is taken by colm
meaney, best known for the commitments and the van and as chief miles o'brien in
star trek: the next generation. a trailer on the internet shows hunt welcoming
his new recruit with a punch in the stomach.

the lapd setting may have been purely expedient, as most of america's tv
production industry is based in or near hollywood. but a crime-ridden new york
may strike more of a chord with audiences familiar with gritty seventies movies
set there such as the french connection, mean streets, taxi driver and the
warriors. life on mars's move has also been eased by new york state's recent
decision to treble the tax credit for film and television productions shooting
there. a source close to the programme said many of the parts would also be
recast, although o'mara's position is not believed to be under threat.

david e kelley, the writer-producer responsible for hits including ally mcbeal
and boston legal, secured the rights for life on mars and wrote the pilot
screenplay, but has now walked away. kelley, who is married to the actress
michelle pfeiffer, declined to comment last week. the remaining producers now
face a race against time to complete what is abc's only new drama of the season.

the bafta-winning british series already has a cult following in the us after
being shown on bbc america. matthew graham, its co-creator, said of the us
version: 'it's been an incredibly convoluted journey. they took on a big job and
there were different opinions on where to go. it's been a tortuous process.'

he and his fellow writers have had little input apart from a two-hour meeting
with kelley. 'at the time we thought he took what we said on board, but i don't
think he did in the end,' graham said. 'i think they should go further away from
us; otherwise the danger is you look like an imitation.'

equally unclear is how american english will translate some of hunt's most
memorable one-liners: 'don't move, you are surrounded by armed bastards!'

[#96174] Written by: freei chei [18/06/2008, 01:46]
well hopefully its better than ashes to ashes..that was rubbish.
[#96183] Written by: Audiovore [18/06/2008, 02:58]
fail.

it tries waay to hard to be the old one, but then not. every one has the same
name, even maya(tho she is oriental instead of indian)! i also thought it was
going to be set in new york. which would have been way better because there is
an ugly cgi shot of 70s la.

in the end its worse that ashes to ashes, i don't know if i'll even be able to
stick with it... which i normally do for remakes, even when bad.
[#96187] Written by: happyrex [18/06/2008, 03:16]
for anyone who hasn't seen the original, this new release takes most every
opportunity to improve. the "life on mars" signature scene features a
significantly more masterful interpretation.

for those of you have seen the bbc version, it takes a slightly different road,
but doesn't stray too far. north americans may find the cultural references
more transparent (richard nixon being a great example).

on the other hand, if dukes of hazzard is more your style of crime show, this is
still not for you.
[#96191] Written by: dread pirate roberts [18/06/2008, 03:43]
release issue, the colours are a real hash, too dark here, over exposed there.
overall saturation problems.

i found the settings not believable, neither the current lapd setting of poured
concrete ( smacked of the execrable touching evil over modern sets ), or the
70's over crowded homicide division with chairs on the sides of desks and alike.
i'd suggest looking at old adam-12 or dragnet(1967) episodes.

the gene hunt violence against the girl witness was, to me, over the top.

i agree the language is going to be a problem, the lom uk gene hunt had the
right level of crudity.

the grit factor now and then was also way off. i like the picture of nixon, but
what was it doing there? the apartment sky backdrop?

hopeful the new york version finds different ways to achieve the same uk
atmosphere & edginess without the shot for shot mistake of previous horrible
imports of cracker and alike.

[#96198] Written by: citizenx [18/06/2008, 04:33]
is that something like journeyman v2.0 ?
[#96213] Written by: rexxriot [18/06/2008, 06:38]
i've heard that they're recasting everyone except jason o'mara. so even if you
don't like this version, you may like it better when it actually airs.
[#96217] Written by: mattsid [18/06/2008, 06:47]
you should really watch the bbc original before watching this simply because
even after only one episode the u.s remake (copy?) is going to come nowhere near
to the original especially in terms of the performances and authenticity of the
locations.

what also intrigues me is whether the u.s producers and writers intend to run it
and wrap the whole story up in just two seasons, like the original cleverly did.
or will they start re-writing and dragging the story out as long as possible.

[#96221] Written by: tomgibbens [18/06/2008, 07:34]
i think the concept is good to make an american version of life on mars but
they have tried to make a carbon coppy and it makes it seem stupid but if they
add some different storys they could really pull it of.
[#96223] Written by: JeffTheDrunk [18/06/2008, 07:38]
objects are oriental, people are asian. saying someone is oriental means you
are saying they are no better than an object.
[#96227] Written by: smarteyeball [18/06/2008, 08:43]
seriously, pick a version and view that world wide. there are other countries
in the world other than america. by watching shows that don't include american
references, the american population at large might actually learn something.
the rest of the world has to....

flame away. i don't care.
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