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[#188801] Written by: R0nin [20/09/2012, 11:51]
i have a request-- when posting a "proper", could eztv make a note here as to why the proper was
needed? it would help us decide whether it's worth it to dl the proper, if we dl'd the original release.

does anyone know why this one was needed?

thanks!
[#188806] Written by: rseiler [20/09/2012, 14:14]
yes, links to nfos would be nice.

in this case, the lmao release is missing the very last bit, where the person voted out talks to the camera. this amounts to
about 10 seconds and is not important, so it's not worth a dl.

i expected the proper was going to be for the size: there's no way an hdtv x264 vid that's about an hour (not counting
commercials) should be anywhere near 800mb.
[#188807] Written by: R0nin [20/09/2012, 14:58]
Quote by rseiler
yes, links to nfos would be nice.

in this case, the lmao release is missing the very last bit, where the person voted out talks to the
camera. this amounts to
about 10 seconds and is not important, so it's not worth a dl.

i expected the proper was going to be for the size: there's no way an hdtv x264 vid that's about an
hour (not counting
commercials) should be anywhere near 800mb.


as for size, the proper is 803 mb, so... pretty much rules that out.

if they cut off the very end on the original one, then it makes sense they'd release a proper.
although i agree with you, it's not worth my re-downloading it.

thanks for the info!
[#188812] Written by: BoonesFerry [20/09/2012, 17:58]

@r0nin -- torrents are added to eztv through automated processes. automatically adding a note to a
nuked torrent, or the successor torrent, is not going to happen (imo). it is up to us. generally, if i'm
not sleeping or away when a proper is posted, i will do the research and post the information that i
find. btw, i have no special connections for reearching the information, it is available to everyone...i
just happen to take the time to find it and share it ...which i enjoy doing, most of the time.

@rseiler -- eztv won't be posting links to nfo files.
we must find them ourselves and share what we find.


re: file size

file size is no longer the focus and is no longer set/fixed at 350 mb for a 42 min show, using xvid/avi.
the focus is on quality...using x264/mp4 (or mkv) and a specific crf setting (crf constant rate
factor). in most cases the resulting file size is quite a bit smaller than the previouisly used xvid/avi 350
mb standard, but not always.

file size is tied to the complexity of the source material (i.e. still vs. moving, grainy vs solid, number of
colors, etc.), and how much compression can be applied to any given frame and still maintain the fixed
quality setting (crf).

if you're still curious and want to learn more...

crf guide (constant rate factor).
http://pastebin.com/bjyeveai

the sd x264 tv releasing standards 2012.
http://scenerules.irc.gs/n.html?id=2012_sdtvx264u1.nfo

and a handful of other general resources...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/video_codec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/xvid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/x264
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/h.264/mpeg-4_avc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/display_resolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bit_rate#video

[#188813] Written by: BoonesFerry [20/09/2012, 18:00]

nuked: survivor s25e01 hdtv x264-lmao (previous release)
reason: missing.footage_get.2hd.proper
successor: survivor s25e01 proper hdtv x264-2hd (this release)


comparison:
survivor s25e01 proper hdtv x264-2hd -- 804.00 mb -- 1:03:29 (42 seconds longer)
survivor s25e01 hdtv x264-lmao -- 803.34 mb -- 1:02:47 (42 seconds short)

18 seconds - scenes from the next episode
04 seconds - closing credits without show scenes
20 seconds - closing credit with show scenes...person voted off talks to the camera and you see who
voted for whom.

[#188935] Written by: R0nin [23/09/2012, 16:41]
thanks, boonesferry. i wish i knew how to research the reason for propers on my own; i'd be happy to
post my findings if i did.

i've noticed that you're putting in a lot of time here lately-- thanks for all your efforts!

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